Hard To Get - Your Personal Guidebook on How to Play the Game of Love!
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04Victory |
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I need to be filled in on the reasons a woman that has been so well taken care of, could harbor so much anger and violence, and make THAT the reason there are issues in the relationship. I have taken emotional and physical abuse, beyond the point of being smart, and we have now seperated for the 20th time. It's done, but I want someone to shed some light on what I need to do to release the want for it to get better. I am a glutton for this kind of punishment it seems. Always the giver, hardly ever recieving. I have been with this woman for 2 yrs, we had one of those magical connections. The world was ours. I gave her all of the love and caring I have to give, probably more because I never was in a relationship before that I felt was going to be the last. This one was it. To me. I gave openly to all of her family, helped her children get on their feet, gave them jobs, homes at family priced rent. I moved her sister closer to her so they could be together, and have been abused by all. The kids trashed my houses, left owing me lots of money, one kid punched me in the head cuz I gave him 90 days notice that I was selling the house. The sister jumped on my head, for the same reason (different house tho). On top of all of that, now the woman I loved so much treats me with no respect at all. I am a believer that anything can be fixed and nothing is worth argueing over. My woman tells me that it's ok for her to go out with her single friends,even to bars, She'll tell me she's going somewhere and never even goes, comes home 4 hrs later with no expanation as to why or where she was. She is now on the 4th phone that I bought and pay the bill for. She broke the other 3. She now has a password on her messages, so I can't hear them. Sometimes she is the nicest person and she can come home and out of the blue it's like she's someone else. Someone with a vandetta against me. I feel that all the evidence leads to someone else taking away what was once mine. All the good. She has been brutally abusive emotionally and now phisically also. I have broken myself down so far now I know that who she looks at and sees is not the man that she loved at the start. I am a good man, a good provider, commited wholly to this relationship, I have done all I can it seems to find out and fix whatever was making her upset. By her own admission I have done nothing to deserve this treatment. I asked her to marry me a yr ago, we had been together a yr. She gave me the ring back, we made up, I asked her again, we fought, she gave it back, we made up, I asked again, I now have it back for the last time. I know, I am stupid. I know I was made an azz. She never talks to me or lets me put anything on the table to work on, she is in denial of any wrong doing on her part. She even has gone so far as to say she has never hit me, that she hates violence, tho I have pictures and bruises still. I would never hurt a woman, I have had to hold her wrists so she would stop hitting me tho. Thats how I got bitten. I have written such deep things to her, because she wont talk to me,to try to let her see my love, always wanting to see hers in return. If it happens, it only does for a day or so, and right back to my life of fear for the next time. Tell me, we are both sick, huh?
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termessi |
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Wow! My heart goes out to you. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE should EVER be abusive! I lived with an abusive father and then an abusive first husband and I know what abuse does to a person's self-esteem...basically there is none left when they are done with you.
Please, please move on with your life. You seem like a nice person who has done everything to keep a relationship going; however, you have been put down, ridiculed and abused! There should be NO tolerance for that. I hope you continue to be strong and NEVER give her another chance. There are so many nice women out there...give THEM a chance. I really have no other advice for you...just be good to yourself...YOU deserve all the good things life has to offer! Go for it! |
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halcyondreams |
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You could look at the reasons why you've chosen to be with these type of women... your choices are who you are. Most women I know would not ever dream of beating up their boyfriend/husband/whomever!! Violence and physical aggression is not in their blood!
It's also a matter of getting out of the situation you're in. Sometimes when you're deeply involved in certain circles of people (women), you get stuck and start taking on their stresses and emotions, etc but it's not who you are. Maybe take a break from them and sort yourself out - get some space and think things through! You sound like a great guy who has a lot of love to give - but only offer it to the right girls |
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04Victory |
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I agree about me picking the wrong women, but on the other hand, she was a dream come true for the very beginning and at times during, I just think she either has issues that really don't involve me or someone else has come into the picture and I have to be the reason for her anger so she feels more justified. I just don't know. Thats why I asked you all for some insight. I am having the hardest time, anxiety ridden time, trying to figure out WHY.
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halcyondreams |
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I think you are very sweet - sounds like your woman is really giving you a terrible time and all you can think about is how you can help the situation, by doing something, or helping her.
Sounds like she has a lot of issues, possibly deep-seated emotional ones, but you have to remember that these are HER issues, and everyone is personally responsible for their own lives. It's does no good to rely on some prince charming to rescue us and make everything ok! I think you've done enough for her by staying with her!! There are not many men who would tolerate that kind of abuse for 5 mins. You'll just have to accept that you can't be in control, you can't be a Fix-it guy, you can't control her or the situation but hey maybe you're not supposed to! You're gonna have to calm your anxiety-ridden state somehow by trying to detach from the situation, because you're not a magician! |
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04Victory |
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At the risk of someone else making money off of my pain, and words, I will show you what I do to relieve the anxiety. I just need a better subject. I wrote this during the last few hours of mon. night......Well hi there, I have had a large cocktail, (2) actually, and would like to tell you a story.................here we go.
There once was a couple, so happy and strong, then something bad happened, and everything went wrong. The man in this scene was treated so mean, that all he could hope was, that this was a dream. He once had a woman, so beautiful and smart, he would have loved her forever, never wanting to part. The woman had a plan, unbeknownst to her man, that tortured his mind, and his heart, in like kind. Shes hurt him so bad, cause shes always so mad, but he came up with a plan, to show hes a man. But the plan failed in the end, cause shes never willing to bend. So he makes up his mind, to get out of his bind, hurting ever so much, for the loss of her touch. But he realizes inside, that you cant stop the tide, nor can you make someone love you. So I tell you all, that this much is true, the loss of this love, has made me come to. I no longer shall take, the torment that you make, someone else will be glad, to have what you have had. I am setting you free, cause you never wanted me. I will be happy in the end, and my heart, it will mend. For you I dont know, which way you will go, I feel you will run, and to me, you will not come. You lie to my face, always wanting your space, you have even made me bleed, still never caring for my need. You have hurt me so deep, all I crave is to sleep, I wish this would end, that my baby would bend. I have done all I can, to be what you want for your man, no matter whatever I do, its never enough to, or for you. You have stripped me to my core, and your lifes turned into a bore, shaming me in the end, and still never willing to bend. In the end, I ask of you only one thing, I hope you wont consider me, just another fling. You meant the world to me, and I loved you so very much, I only wanted the kindness that I deserved, and the softness of your touch. Have a drink with me and celebrate, all the good times that we had, and leave me with a kiss, instead of being mad. I will miss you all my life, for you were to be my loving wife, I only shed these tears, for the loss of all those years. But the tears they will dry, cause Im a great guy, and its you that spends all my cabbage, and carries all of that baggage. All of your @#%$ I dont need, just to have you play the part, of the woman that doesnt love me, and finally breaks my heart. If you loved me you would show, all that Ive asked you for, and needed to know. If you loved me, you would care, not tear at my soul, until it is bare. What more do you need, shall I make myself bleed? What is it I can do, right at the end, while your still refusing, even just to bend?                 UNFINISHED |
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termessi |
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omg...you write so deeply and it moved me to tears. You really need to let go. She is NOT the one for you and as the above poster wrote...you need to think more about you right now before moving onto someone else.
Granted, when that happened to me I did fill the void with dates but never anything serious. You need to feel good about yourself and the only way to do that is to let go and know that me, the above poster, and many others see you as a wonderful man with so much love to give...but it will happen in time...with the right person....but you need to mend your heart and let go. As we've both told you, no one should be abused...and she is right...I don't know any woman who is abusive but I was married to a guy who was and they really don't change. I lasted 13 yrs in that relationship...and I learned a lot. I will never let anyone mistreat me again...and that is what you need to realize...that no one deserves it...and you won't tolerate it. Good luck. |
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04Victory |
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It seems so hard to feel even worthy of liking myself when all that I can do never measures up. I don't feel I look good, or I know my head is up my butt, I know my face shows the heartache. How do I go out and feel good about myself, always knowing I will more than likely see her out having a good time while I am still miserable. Maybe I should take the money I would have spent on her this month and rent an escort, and just go find her at a bar, and make like I'm happy. I hate the meat market scene, I'm not the guy who hunts. I want to be the hunted. I am a wall flower at a bar, unless with friends, and I dont have many single friends. Unlike her who has only single friends. In my head I know I am done with this, I have to get my insides to follow. Each day and each post I read helps me so, please keep telling me how or that I will end up ok. I am moving out of the state and starting over in Georgia, I was to take her with, but things change as I see.I do see a light at the end of the tunnel I just wanted a loving hand to hold while I walked there. I guess I will walk it alone for a while, I do need to find out who I am again. And on another note.....Is it odd to find a whole family that has these violent tendencies???...Every one in her family except her daughter, has been involved in battery type violence, can this be hereditary?
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termessi |
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Seems to me that if the whole family has issues with violence then that's all the more that you should NOT be around them.
My father was very abusive however none of my siblings or I are abusive or violent. Studies have proven that those who are abused become abusive but it doesn't have to be that way. I made sure I would NEVER be like that...I made a conscious effort...she doesn't seem willing or able to do that. You really need to move on. Get an escort?? Why??? Why would you do that? To show her you don't care? Believe me, she'll still see it on your face and actions...really she will. Do yourself a HUGE favor and move on...QUICKLY. You say you're moving out of state...good for you! You say you're a wallflower...who cares? There are all types of people out there...and who says being a wallflower is bad? The guy I'm dating now is very quiet but he is the BEST thing that has ever come into my life! So, hang in there...try to pick yourself out of the depths of the abyss you're in and move quickly into doing things for yourself that make YOU happy. Too many times we tend to do what makes others happy...this is YOUR time to shine! Go for it! You say she has all single friends and you have none...that doesn't matter! Go for dance lessons...something I always wanted to do. You'll find people there..or go take a class at night...you don't have to go to bars....there are people you can meet everyday in every day settings.... Let HER GO!!! You need to in order to be happy. Good Luck and keep us posted! |
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Hello, I read your post, and just wanted to send some advice/encouragement. Hope not to offend. I needed straight talk from my global community e-friends when my husband walked out on me 2 months ago. We were married for 7 years. 3 boys 5 and under. Including a 5 y/o with Autism and a 2 month old baby. Honey, I know stress. This woman and her family sound like an entire clan of bottom feeders. They sound like people who suck the life out of someone. Her actions sound to me like someone who loves the power and control that she has over you. Are you still contributing money to her and her family? I would stop that NOW. I would quit the mushy love letters to her...further devalue you in her eyes. Sounds like you are being played. I would NOT spend money on an escort. Your pain and humiliation are showing on your face. Do let let another woman use you. TRY to look your best. Try to salvage the few scraps of dignity that are somewhere within you. They are still there somewhere. BELIEVE in yourself and your personal worth. If you no longer believe it, pretend for now. Very very slowly it will return. Everytime that you dismiss this person emotionally killing you, you will gain a shred of dignity back. I know, it is happening to me. Please let me know if you read this. Again, do not mean to offend you. Just STOP letting her do this to you. A virtual hand to hold, Lyn |
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04Victory |
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WOW, Lyn, thank you. No offense ever taken, I appreciate your time and advice. I was doing good for a few weeks and I broke down and had to try one more thing. I suggested counseling, for both of us. For me mostly to hear from some professional that she's in need of serious help that I cant give. I have gotten stronger inside as the days go by, but every time I seem to give a little or break down, she just takes me and beats me with it. She has hocked thousands of dollars worth of jewelry for a few hundred, all the sentimental stuff I bought, just sitting at a pawn shop. All that so she can stay at friends and have her space. I know inside this woman is sick, somethings wrong, it's not me. I think my head has finally emerged from my ass, and I can see her for what she is. Not what she was. I know already how much happier I could be if someone came into my life and treated me with respect and love rather than contempt and hate. I am on my way, but as you and I know, it's a long road. THX again for your kindness, I need all I can get anymore, there's been a serious shortage of that for me lately.
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Let me say that I will never understand abusive behavior from anyone! But the issue here is you! Don't let her issues be yours any longer. I want to share something with you in hopes that it shines some light for you.
My heart has been hurt worse than I could have ever known, but you know what? Yeah it was a horrific place. I didn't want to go there, no one does willingly! That's why I fought for so long to hang on to my marriage. He was my best friend for 22 years. I let go, I had to. But as I was surviving, I was learning about myself, I found that I had to be true to myself and that I needed to be proud of myself. period. So I understand your need for time. Wanna know what else? I learned that to be true to yourself, you need to settle your unrest before you can give your all to something/someone else. Go rent an Escort car and take a long drive instead!!Sometimes I felt like I was in such a dark forest, that I was frozen, not knowing which way to turn to get out! I can now say, I have done that - and it feels good! I hope you are still reading (and not shaking your head at me) and thinking you can't, you can! And I hope you don't look at this like I'm preaching, cuz God himself knows I'm no better than anyone! I simply understand! It's just that I now am in a place to actually be grateful to have an opportunity to grow, but it took alot of tears and guts too I guess! ha ha So now I can say not only did I survive, I will thrive! And now I would like to share who I am with someone special. Time heals and we are here to love |
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Enough is enough my friend. Life is short, is this how you want to spend it? Being abused, being used, not being respected or valued? God I hope not. It is a
wonderous thing, to see a person with a generous and open heart. Unfortunately it has been taken advantage of. A good person will invest their wholeselves in a
relationship and can weather the more tumulteous times that couples experience. But you have done more than that and you have lost yourself in a violent
journey. You need to let it go now. You've been a good person and done what you can. This tempestuous and volatile woman really does have deep seated
issues and it's not your responsibility to fix her. That's her job.
It's time to walk away and take with you the lessons that she taught you. And that's what is NOT healthy in a relationship. Decide what you need from a woman that can add happiness to your life and look for those qualities in a person. That way you can take something of value during the time spent with her and her family and turn it into a positive to enrich your life. You've done enough to be able to pat yourself on the back and know that you are still a good man and that you deserve better. |
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